NPR's Ari Shapiro talks with Ben Elkind, a wildland firefighter based in Washington state who has traveled the country ...

We've had a number of fatalities. Alex Robertson is another former Hot Shot. He still works for the Forest Service, but says the life of a wildland firefighter no longer fits his lifestyle.

STEPHANIE SY (voice-over): Alex Robertson is another former Hot Shot. He still works for the Forest Service, but says the life of a wildland firefighter no longer fits his lifestyle. ALEX ...

Ben Elkind is a wildland firefighter based in Washington state ... ELKIND: And then, when I was a hot shot, you know, we'd travel all over - Southern California, New Mexico, Alaska, all the ...